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ok thats cool. But the os should be straight forward with out using other things to make it better. It should be better with-in-self. Thanks for the info. I know yall waiting on me too change the world.There's 2 excellent 3rd party software to tackle the start menu issue: Start8 and Start10 respectively for each OS and ClassicShell which is no longer supported but still functional and the new OpenShell. Also, if you which to tweak your windows to configure it more like Windows 7, there is Winaero. Then to customize windows there is Stardock Object Desktop....it's bundled with all kinds of nifty software.