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Message: [QUOTE="jmccleary50, post: 7706, member: 23663"] Speaking of user groups here's another wrinkle. I have been seeing and avoiding "you need to verify your identity". I finally clicked on it and than sign in with another account to avoid a Microsoft account. Somewhere along the line I had to go to control panel to change my name and when I restarted a cavern wallpaper scene came up and just as I feared I had to log in with a password. I have a shortcut to user accounts on my taskbar and when I went there the must enter password box was checked again. This time after I cleared it I saw the enter password twice that others here have posted. A side note: my previous posts about ok without apply were wrong, I checked apply then ok and the next reset went through as before without a password. The end of this is that I finally have a verified local account not a Microsoft account. That was the goal all along. [/QUOTE]